Marty McFly's Ambient Obscurance (MXAO) with IL
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8 years 3 months ago #281
by Sunesha
Replied by Sunesha on topic Marty McFly's Ambient Obscurance (MXAO) with IL
I am gonna dive in tomorrowMarty McFly wrote: Hm, I expected some feedback for the new version...
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8 years 3 months ago #282
by Ryukou36
Replied by Ryukou36 on topic Marty McFly's Ambient Obscurance (MXAO) with IL
Hi Marty, sorry for the late input, I been out for 2 days. I did test the new version the last saturday and didn't notice any improvement on performance. Everything just work the same for me , I play in 1440p with a 980Ti.Marty McFly wrote: Hm, I expected some feedback for the new version...
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8 years 3 months ago #283
by Marty McFly
Replied by Marty McFly on topic Marty McFly's Ambient Obscurance (MXAO) with IL
That's odd. I could measure significant improvements on both a GTX 1080 and a GT940.
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8 years 3 months ago #284
by Zarathustra
Replied by Zarathustra on topic Marty McFly's Ambient Obscurance (MXAO) with IL
Marty McFly wrote: That's odd. I could measure significant improvements on both a GTX 1080 and a GT940.
Are most of the performance improvements for the IL render path? Because that render path is not enabled by default if I interpret the code correctly.
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8 years 3 months ago #285
by Marty McFly
Replied by Marty McFly on topic Marty McFly's Ambient Obscurance (MXAO) with IL
Default AO only should run a bit faster as well (if you count 50 vs 20 fps as "a bit" - beta tester result) but the biggest change should be the IL. Which can be enabled via the preprocessor options in the ReShade UI; see the PDF that comes along with the 2.0 download on the first page of this thread for details.
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8 years 3 months ago - 8 years 3 months ago #286
by Zarathustra
Replied by Zarathustra on topic Marty McFly's Ambient Obscurance (MXAO) with IL
Ok, I tested the new version and got some strange results. FPS were the same but on the statistics page the time measured was about 3 times lower for the new version. Didn't test IL. Not sure what's going on.
Also, is there some way to load both, the old and the new version at the same time in order to activate one or the other? I renamed the new shader file to MXAO2 and renamed everything in the fx file with MXAO to MXAO2. Reshade listed MXAO2 but when I activated it, I only got a black screen.
Also, is there some way to load both, the old and the new version at the same time in order to activate one or the other? I renamed the new shader file to MXAO2 and renamed everything in the fx file with MXAO to MXAO2. Reshade listed MXAO2 but when I activated it, I only got a black screen.
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8 years 3 months ago - 8 years 3 months ago #287
by Sunesha
Replied by Sunesha on topic Marty McFly's Ambient Obscurance (MXAO) with IL
I had some time now to try out the new beta. Only game test results that puzzled me was that Human: Fall Flat had lower frame rate with the test version when used AO only. Which was weird as the other games didn't show that behavior. Where AO only was the same in both version. Copied all my MXAO settings to be sure that wasn't the difference.
But personally this new MXAO version is lighter and has put IL reachable for my FPS budget.
Test methodology:
System:
GTX 960 4gB
I7 Processor
Win10 with creators update
But personally this new MXAO version is lighter and has put IL reachable for my FPS budget.
Test methodology:
- I had all my normal reshade shaders active
- Put the test shader with my other shaders including the stock MXAO
- Setup IL with backface enabled
- Found spot in the game where nothing was going on
- Took the AO only test than switched between test and stock version of MXAO. Copied exact settings between both them. Then reloaded the shaders with IL and back face setting enabled in the pre-processor settings
System:
GTX 960 4gB
I7 Processor
Win10 with creators update
Splinter Cell Black List (24 samples)
MXAOgithub AO AO+IL
57 49
MXAObeta AO AO+IL
57 56
Hitman (24 samples)
MXAOgithub AO AO+IL
42 36
MXAObeta AO AO+IL
43 39
Human Fall Flat (16 samples) DSR 2.0x
MXAOgithub AO AO+IL
70 53
MXAObeta AO AO+IL
66 63
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8 years 3 months ago #288
by Sunesha
Replied by Sunesha on topic Marty McFly's Ambient Obscurance (MXAO) with IL
Happend to me to, if I had both MXAO activated at the same time I got a black screen.Zarathustra wrote: Also, is there some way to load both, the old and the new version at the same time in order to activate one or the other? I renamed the new shader file to MXAO2 and renamed everything in the fx file with MXAO to MXAO2. Reshade listed MXAO2 but when I activated it, I only got a black screen.
It worked if I just had one mxao activated.
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8 years 3 months ago #289
by Rudy102
Replied by Rudy102 on topic Marty McFly's Ambient Obscurance (MXAO) with IL
Strange, but I also haven't noticed too big difference.
Witcher 3 GOTY.
Windows 7 64bit, i7-4790K, Nvidia GTX 780Ti, drivers: 375.70.
ReShade 3.0.7. Only MXAO.fx and ReShade.fxh in the shaders folder.
IL enabled via the preprocessor. The game was freezed.
[MXAO.fx]
MXAO 2.0.11 (30 samples)
Disabled - 68 fps
AO - 52 fps
AO+IL - 48 fps
MXAO 2.0.11 (20 samples)
Disabled - 68 fps
AO - 53 fps
AO+IL - 51 fps
MXAO 2.0 (30 samples)
Disabled - 68 fps
AO - 53 fps
AO+IL - 49 fps
MXAO 2.0 (20 samples)
Disabled - 68 fps
AO - 54 fps
AO+IL - 51 fps
Witcher 3 GOTY.
Windows 7 64bit, i7-4790K, Nvidia GTX 780Ti, drivers: 375.70.
ReShade 3.0.7. Only MXAO.fx and ReShade.fxh in the shaders folder.
IL enabled via the preprocessor. The game was freezed.
[MXAO.fx]
Warning: Spoiler!
fMXAOAmbientOcclusionAmount=0.600000
bMXAOSmoothNormalsEnable=-1.000000
fMXAOIndirectLightingAmount=3.000000
fMXAOFadeoutStart=0.580000
iMXAOBayerDitherLevel=2.000000
fMXAONormalBias=0.080000
fMXAOIndirectLightingSaturation=2.000000
iMXAOSampleCount=20.000000
fMXAOSampleRadius=1.420000
fMXAOBlurSharpness=2.000000
fMXAOBlurSteps=1.000000
bMXAODebugViewEnable=0.000000
fMXAOFadeoutEnd=0.800000
bMXAOSmoothNormalsEnable=-1.000000
fMXAOIndirectLightingAmount=3.000000
fMXAOFadeoutStart=0.580000
iMXAOBayerDitherLevel=2.000000
fMXAONormalBias=0.080000
fMXAOIndirectLightingSaturation=2.000000
iMXAOSampleCount=20.000000
fMXAOSampleRadius=1.420000
fMXAOBlurSharpness=2.000000
fMXAOBlurSteps=1.000000
bMXAODebugViewEnable=0.000000
fMXAOFadeoutEnd=0.800000
MXAO 2.0.11 (30 samples)
Disabled - 68 fps
AO - 52 fps
AO+IL - 48 fps
MXAO 2.0.11 (20 samples)
Disabled - 68 fps
AO - 53 fps
AO+IL - 51 fps
MXAO 2.0 (30 samples)
Disabled - 68 fps
AO - 53 fps
AO+IL - 49 fps
MXAO 2.0 (20 samples)
Disabled - 68 fps
AO - 54 fps
AO+IL - 51 fps
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8 years 3 months ago #290
by magicart87
Replied by magicart87 on topic Marty McFly's Ambient Obscurance (MXAO) with IL
Would it be possible to add blend modes to the AO?
Have the AO blend via Multiply, Darken, Overlay, Color Burn, etc?
Have the AO blend via Multiply, Darken, Overlay, Color Burn, etc?
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8 years 3 months ago - 8 years 3 months ago #291
by Marty McFly
Replied by Marty McFly on topic Marty McFly's Ambient Obscurance (MXAO) with IL
Depends. The ones you named are labels for simple formulas to blend any 2 images together. AO, by definition, adds shadows, so it darkens the screen. Now, just like all other AO shaders you'll find, MXAO is color * AO, with some term that reduces AO intensity, the brighter the base color is. Some AO shaders are integrated into lighting calculation so they only affect ambient lighting but it's more or less the same. The ones you named are entirely useless for the purpose to add convincing AO into the scene but I might add different blending modes some time, if I find different, equally convincing ones as the one I created for MXAO, Treyarch has an interesting approach for this to simulate multiple light bounces by a smart formula. The difficulty is to add IL without either complicating the formula or make IL kill off AO and vice versa.
So: adding different blending modes: possibly. Adding the ones you named or any other of the common photoshop blending formulas: no.
So: adding different blending modes: possibly. Adding the ones you named or any other of the common photoshop blending formulas: no.
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8 years 3 months ago #292
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Replied by B4rr3l on topic Marty McFly's Ambient Obscurance (MXAO) with IL
Hi everyone, I 've tried to search a lot but couldn't find a way to make Reshade 2.0 or 3.0 work with BF2, I mean MXAO and DOF, I found that the game does have depth buffer support and it's in the list, what am I doing wrong here?
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8 years 3 months ago - 8 years 3 months ago #293
by Sunesha
Replied by Sunesha on topic Marty McFly's Ambient Obscurance (MXAO) with IL
MXAO, DOF and other shaders that uses depth information will not work when there is network activity. Such as multiplayer games. Should work for single player campaignB4rr3l wrote: Hi everyone, I 've tried to search a lot but couldn't find a way to make Reshade 2.0 or 3.0 work with BF2, I mean MXAO and DOF, I found that the game does have depth buffer support and it's in the list, what am I doing wrong here?
It is supposed to be stop cheating
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8 years 3 months ago #294
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Replied by robgrab on topic Marty McFly's Ambient Obscurance (MXAO) with IL
B4rr3l wrote: Hi everyone, I 've tried to search a lot but couldn't find a way to make Reshade 2.0 or 3.0 work with BF2, I mean MXAO and DOF, I found that the game does have depth buffer support and it's in the list, what am I doing wrong here?
Did you disable AA?
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8 years 3 months ago #295
by B4rr3l
Replied by B4rr3l on topic Marty McFly's Ambient Obscurance (MXAO) with IL
I did but it seems that it was back on, now I changed all the video.con and will tried again, being 2 days trying to make at least the DOF work on it, I made it work with ENB but the result wasn't that great as it can be, and not very stable , enb don't take SS or does alt-tab without crashing. I'm remastering the whole BF2 game, the other effects are great just gotta find a way to make those other 2 works, It's my own game I need to make it work in singleplayer first.
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8 years 3 months ago - 8 years 3 months ago #296
by B4rr3l
Replied by B4rr3l on topic Marty McFly's Ambient Obscurance (MXAO) with IL
I see now it works great with forced AA off, but only on weapons and hands 
any possible work around for this?
I mean skip the hud and 1P overlay?
any possible work around for this?I mean skip the hud and 1P overlay?
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8 years 3 months ago #297
by Marty McFly
Replied by Marty McFly on topic Marty McFly's Ambient Obscurance (MXAO) with IL
ReShade limitation, nothing I can do about.
New update for testing. Can maybe run faster, who knows. But it should look better, less hazy. I've also introduced a new feature (preprocessor toggle) that allows to use 2 AO layers with different radii and intensities. Check it out.
pastebin.com/LBGQ3inF
New update for testing. Can maybe run faster, who knows. But it should look better, less hazy. I've also introduced a new feature (preprocessor toggle) that allows to use 2 AO layers with different radii and intensities. Check it out.
pastebin.com/LBGQ3inF
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8 years 3 months ago #298
by B4rr3l
Replied by B4rr3l on topic Marty McFly's Ambient Obscurance (MXAO) with IL
Do you think that new one can work? or maybe point me some ENB dll that could make it work?
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8 years 3 months ago - 8 years 3 months ago #299
by Marty McFly
Replied by Marty McFly on topic Marty McFly's Ambient Obscurance (MXAO) with IL
The only ENB version I know of that works similar to ReShade is the 0.076 generic but you can't use any ReShade effects there. It has its down AO version though. But please, don't derail this or other threads with your requests as it has nothing to do with specific ReShade shaders but entirely with ReShade itself being semi compatible with the game of your choice.
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8 years 3 months ago #300
by B4rr3l
Replied by B4rr3l on topic Marty McFly's Ambient Obscurance (MXAO) with IL
Actually I'm just asking how to make your MXAO effect work in a First person shooter in name of a lot of people that don't even know this forum exists. You will make a lot of players happy if you could point me in the right direction to make this and your DOF filter work.
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