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Any plans for Gedosato Integration or Vice Versa? 1 year 10 months ago #1

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Are there any plans for Gedosato to accept this into its list of features or vice versa?
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Any plans for Gedosato Integration or Vice Versa? 1 year 10 months ago #2

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I saw people using GeDoSaTo alongside ReShade already ...
There are no plans to add downsampling to ReShade currently, as I don't want it to become bloatware. ReShade is for shading and that should be it =)
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Any plans for Gedosato Integration or Vice Versa? 1 year 10 months ago #3

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crosire wrote:
I saw people using GeDoSaTo alongside ReShade already ...
There are no plans to add downsampling to ReShade currently, as I don't want it to become bloatware. ReShade is for shading and that should be it =)

Maybe you can sleep on it. Downsampling would be a great addition to an already awesome package - that package being ReShade of course. :cheer:
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crosire wrote:
I saw people using GeDoSaTo alongside ReShade already ...
There are no plans to add downsampling to ReShade currently, as I don't want it to become bloatware. ReShade is for shading and that should be it =)

Fully agree to this 110%.. we have hardware downsampling now as well with Nvidia DSR, and im unsure of AMD,, although manually it can be done..

I was manually down sampling with bicubic scaling 2.5 years before Gedosato so to me I find it to be a pointless tool..

From that developer DSFix for the first Dark Souls was amazing, but then the focus shift to a general downsampling / effect tool and I abandoned my interest
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Any plans for Gedosato Integration or Vice Versa? 1 year 10 months ago #5

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In all the games I've tried, GeDoSaTo + ReShade = black screen

Borderlands 2
Darksiders 2
Remember me
Spec Ops: The Line

The issue seems to happen when you use GeDoSaTo resolutions.

This is a fix I would gladly pay for. Trying to get these to work together has been nothing but frustration for me.
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Any plans for Gedosato Integration or Vice Versa? 1 year 10 months ago #6

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Agree with both of you, I don't think ReShade needs downsampling functionality but compatibility would be a huge boon.
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Any plans for Gedosato Integration or Vice Versa? 1 year 10 months ago #7

I'll back this request. I'm on older AMD hardware so I do not have access to driver downsampling and GeDoSaTo has been a godsend until now. I haven't had any black screens but I can't make them work together either (screenshots from Reshade are in normal resolution, the ones from GDST won't capture Reshade's effects - and that's when they both get to load)
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I would rather like to see Marty's shaders implemented into the GeDoSaTo. There's no need for full ReShade+GeDoSaTo support.
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If a game fails to load with GeDoSaTo + Reshade, try to set "interceptOnlySystemDlls true" on game profile.
It works for me even with some DX8 games.

I didn't test a lot of games yet, though.

EDIT: I'd just tried it with Borderlands 2 and it works, even with unusual AR.
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Any plans for Gedosato Integration or Vice Versa? 1 year 10 months ago #10

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Promised K-putt already, I'll look into it =).
But I can't guarantee anything yet. It probably needs some changes in GeDoSaTo too.
Cheers, crosire =)
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Any plans for Gedosato Integration or Vice Versa? 1 year 10 months ago #11

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strelokgunslinger wrote:
From that developer DSFix for the first Dark Souls was amazing, but then the focus shift to a general downsampling / effect tool and I abandoned my interest
GeDoSaTo is not only a downsampling tool, it can apply shaders BEFORE the HUD drawing, not as simple postprocessing step. An integration (+dgVoodoo) would be awesome :D
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Any plans for Gedosato Integration or Vice Versa? 1 year 10 months ago #12

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lowenz wrote:
GeDoSaTo is not only a downsampling tool, it can apply shaders BEFORE the HUD drawing, not as simple postprocessing step.
That's not really black magic, it just applies post processing at a different stage. ReShade is capable of doing that too, it's just not currently enabled, because I've yet to write a generic and automatic algorithm to find the point the current game starts rendering its HUD, so to apply post processing before (so you don't need to find these shader hashes manually, like one does for GeDoSaTo) =).
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Any plans for Gedosato Integration or Vice Versa? 1 year 10 months ago #13

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Update:
I checked things and was experiencing crashes when using with ReShade, all of them inside the GeDoSaTo module. I thus forked the GeDoSaTo source and removed all code not related to downsampling (and there's quite a lot of it), which suddenly made it starting to work (at least in the games I tried) =)
Cheers, crosire =)
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Any plans for Gedosato Integration or Vice Versa? 1 year 10 months ago #14

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Here's the cleaned up version: github.com/crosire/gedosato/tree/master/pack
Make sure you create a log for ReShade before launching or otherwise GeDoSaTo crashes because of ReShade's disclaimer window blocking the process. I cannot guarantee this is working, but I had no issues with the few games I could test with.
Cheers, crosire =)
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Any plans for Gedosato Integration or Vice Versa? 1 year 10 months ago #15

In my opinion, there should be some options whether effects are applied before or after downsampling. When you use the built-in postprocessing effects of gedosato, the effects are applied to the higher resolution. If you use normal SweetFX with a game downsampled with gedosato, the effect will be applied to the already downsampled scene.

There are some case dependend pros and cons
Sorry for my bad english, I'm german
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Tried out the edited GeDoSaTo with Alan Wake. It works, but it disables the depth buffer when using downsampling resolutions. No AO, no DOF and depthbuffer output is black. Also Reshade (0.13.0) screenshots are still in native resolution, while GeDoSaTo keys seem permanently disabled? Tried to edit GeDoSaToKeys.ini but nothing happened.
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I think GeDoSaTo's only upside is lanczos downsampling which is sharper and more accurate compared to other downsampling methods. NVIDIA has DSR and AMD has VSR already. I am not an AMD user, therefore I don't know much about VSR, but NVIDIA's DSR technology is nicely implemented as far as I can tell. Its only downside is, DSR uses a mix of nearest neighbor and gaussian algorithm with a smoothness setting. Smoothness between 17% and 25% are usually fine. And extra sharpening might be added with LumaSharpen. Oh also with DSR, ReShade applies the shaders before downsampling which gives more accurate results with SMAA. But not that good with Dither and Film Grain shaders.

Some older games do not support higher resolutions. There are no tweaks or hacking methods to make them work in 1080p. In this case graphics driver upsamples the original resolution to a higher one via Bicubic/Bilinear upsampling which looks ugly as hell. I just wish graphics card manufacturers would give us more algorithms, but I know that it is not their priority.
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Any plans for Gedosato Integration or Vice Versa? 1 year 10 months ago #18

Unfortunately, there is no really good Downsampling implementation. The higher the resolution the higher the flickering in motion is the result with the GeDoSaTo implementation and Lanczos is the worst.
Sorry for my bad english, I'm german
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Any plans for Gedosato Integration or Vice Versa? 1 year 10 months ago #19

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GDST offers upsamplig too (for older games).
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Any plans for Gedosato Integration or Vice Versa? 1 year 10 months ago #20

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Blackhand wrote:
In my opinion, there should be some options whether effects are applied before or after downsampling. When you use the built-in postprocessing effects of gedosato, the effects are applied to the higher resolution. If you use normal SweetFX with a game downsampled with gedosato, the effect will be applied to the already downsampled scene.

There are some case dependend pros and cons

Just set "postProcessAfterScaling" to true on GeDoSaTo.
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